Two Catholic candidates for the vice-presidency. Both believe, as their church teaches, that life begins at conception. Congressman Paul Ryan was further convinced of this when he saw the ultrasound of his daughter, only seven weeks past conception, no bigger than a bean. Her heart was beating. He is pro-life.
Vice-President Joe Biden says “I’ve been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And it has particularly informed my social doctrine. Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who — who can’t take care of themselves, people who need help.”
Biden agrees with Ryan that life begins at conception: “That’s the church’s judgment. I accept it in my personal life.” But he doesn’t want to “impose it” on “equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews and — I just refuse to impose that on others.” He believes the decision regarding the taking of life should be made by the mother, her doctor, and the Supreme Court (not the church).
Joe Biden refuses to impose on others what his church teaches because it’s “personal?” You mean you think it’s wrong for you to kill one of your own kids in utero but it’s okay if others kill theirs? Why? How is that different?
You say you refuse to impose this judgment on others because some of them are “equally devout”? If you are a practicing Catholic, Joe, presumably you believe that this and every other Catholic “judgment” is God-revealed truth. Your church doesn’t believe being “devout” makes one right. Since when does sincerity trump truth?
Is your church comfortable with your giving lip service to this doctrine in private, while denying it in public? In what sense, then, are you “practicing” your faith? In what sense has it “informed” your social doctrine? Because faith, to be real, has to result in consistent works.
Or by “personal,” do you mean that following through on what you say you believe doesn’t matter as much as not offending people (especially those who are devout)?
And one last thing, Joe. How exactly is not preventing the stopping of beating hearts–4,000 to 5,000 of them every day–how is that “taking care of those who — who can’t take care of themselves, people who need help”?
(Transcript on the two men’s positions on abortion are below.)
Ryan:Now, you want to ask basically why I’m pro-life? It’s not simply because of my Catholic faith. That’s a factor, of course, but it’s also because of reason and science. . . [A]bout 10 1/2 years ago, my wife Janna and I went to Mercy Hospital in Janesville. . . for our seven-week ultrasound for our firstborn child, and we saw that heartbeat. Our little baby was in the shape of a bean, and to this day, we have nicknamed our firstborn child, Liza, “Bean.” (Chuckles.) Now, I believe that life begins at conception.
Biden: My religion defines who I am. And I’ve been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And it has particularly informed my social doctrine. Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who — who can’t take care of themselves, people who need help.
With regard to — with regard to abortion, I accept my church’s position on abortion. . . Life begins at conception. That’s the church’s judgment. I accept it in my personal life.
But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews and — I just refuse to impose that on others. . .
I — I do not believe that — that we have a right to tell other people that women, they — they can’t control their body. It’s a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. And the Supreme Court — I’m not going to interfere with that.